Ahtisaari bribe allegations ~ Julia Gorin Truth

Wednesday, July 11, 2007

Ahtisaari bribe allegations

Another lies have been published in Julia Gorin blog, and this time she is using "reliable" sources and made-up stories. Funny thing is that all, "reliable" sources came from Serbian side like Serbianna.com she even linked Defense & Foreign Affairs alleged confirmation but link is actually blog called SerbBlog.

In that accusation she mentioned report by By Valentine Spyroglou, GIS Station Chief, South-East Europe and that report came from Alan Peters Newsbrief Exclusive. By checking GIS info and contacting Pamela von Gruber, Director of GIS, by telephone in the US it is confirmed they don't have employee named Valentine Spyroglou, specially in South-East Europe.
By checking more we found that mysterious Spyroglou exist only on Serbian blog's where he is mentioned as source for some questionable reports, but he is regular writer to late war crime accused Slobodan Milosevic website. So this obvious lie is lowest kind of Serbian propaganda machinery. Second lie is actual reporter Alan Peters from Newsbrief Exclusive who also as Valentine Spyroglou is mysterious person, he doesn't exist in any news agency which can be found on Internet, again he only exist on some Serbian blogs like SerbBlog.

Julia Gorin is making another lie which is quite funny she claim:

The Finnish News Agency, STT, published on June 26 and June 27, 2007, two articles stating that the UN Special Envoy for Kosovo was “bought” by the Albanian mafia in order to support independence for Kosovo.

But actually Finnish News Agency, STT published story as "Serbia's Dulic calls for inquiry in Ahtisaari bribe allegations", and agency made clear from who allegations came in first place.

9 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Whether GIS or the International Strategic Studies Association has an employee named Valentine Spyroglou isn't the key issue.

Greg Copley, the chairman of the International Strategic Studies Association, confirmed on July 14th that his organization has seen intellegence documents from German BND showing that Ahtisaari accepted bribes from the Albanian mafia.

Maybe Ms. Gorin got the name of the source wrong, but she got the story right.

jFk said...

This is highly questionable source, again from Serbian newspaper "Vecernje novosti". How come no one in whole world is investigating this allegations only Serbian press?

here is quout from Greg Copley interview :

We have received a lot of information and heard rumors about corruption in the Martti Ahtisaari’s office, but we waited until we heard for the article published by the Banja Luka daily Fokus. That’s when we started our own investigation. Talking with the number of our sources, we confirmed that German Intelligence Service BND has indeed put this report together.

Again rumors and some report which nobody didn't see except GIS chief, if this is truth why don't they publish original BND report? Ummm maybe because id doesn't exist?

But he expose real truth why is he publishing such accusations:

MR. COPLEY: We have been observing him ever since he was appointed a UN special envoy for Kosovo status, because we knew he came to that post after working for the International Crisis Group, established by the financier George Soros. We also knew that Soros, as well as the ICG, is firmly backing the independence of Kosovo province. This meant that Ahtisaari obviously wasn’t an impartial person for this position.

Discredit George Soros at any case, it would be same with any other UN special envoy for Kosovo

jFk said...

As for mysterious Valentine Spyroglou and Alan Peters, this is simply a confirmation of fake storie.

When people realize that signed authors of fake report doesn't exist, Serbian propaganda machinery must confirm by another source to give some kind of weight to fake reports.

Anonymous said...

jFk,

The source isn't the Serbian newspaper. The source is the German BND and an American named Gregory Copley.

Mr. Copley is the president of the International Strategic Studies Association based in Washington D.C.

http://www.strategicstudies.org/

Like the "Fokus" news agency that originally broke the story back in June. Copley claims to have seen the German BND documents showing that Ahtisaari was bribed by the Albanian mafia.

The Serbian media is reporting two things:

1. The German BND wrote a report showing that the Albanian mafia bribed Ahtisaari.

2. Greg Copley, the president of a prestigious American institution, has seen the BND report and confirmed the accuracy of the original Fokus report.

Do you really think that Mr. Copley would compromise the integrity of his organization, put his own personal reputation on the line, and open himself up to libel/slander charges just to corroborate a story in some no-name Bosnian-Serb newspaper if the story wasn't really true?

Anonymous said...

I found the Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis article on Lexis Nexis and the byline on the story says "Valentine Spyroglou, GIS Station Chief, South-East Europe".

Alan Peters is the name of the blogger who posted the story on the Internet.

See: http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2007/07/details-of-bribing-of-un-special-envoy.html

It would seem that our intrepid blogger didn't check his facts well enough.

He accuses Ms. Gorin of "making lies" by quoting her quoting the Defense & Foreign Affairs article.

If the assertion that "The Finnish News Agency, STT, published on June 26 and June 27, 2007, two articles stating that the UN Special Envoy for Kosovo was 'bought' by the Albanian mafia in order to support independence for Kosovo." is inaccurate then this blog should be attacking Defense & Foreign Affairs because they're the ones who wrote it.

jFk said...

First of all yes the source of this story is actually Serbian daily paper "Fokus". As for German BND report even Mr. Copley said "we did see report" which means he don't have it so actually we have to believe him and this falls in category hearsay.

And you are asking about credibility of Mr. Copley but you don't ask about former President of Finland reputation?

Again I repeat ,why there is no other accusations, investigations and similar actions other than Serbian press?

As for second comment I must again repeat myself "Valentine Spyroglou, GIS Station Chief, South-East Europe" doesn't exist in GIS, it only exist in Serbian reports nowhere else. And this is confirmed by Pamela von Gruber, Director of GIS.

As for Alan Peters he isn't mentioned as blogger but as "Alan Peters Newsbrief Exclusive" like some kind of news agencies, but even him didn't do much only publish alleged report by "Valentine Spyroglou"

And "The Finnish News Agency, STT, published on June 26 and June 27, 2007, two articles stating that the UN Special Envoy for Kosovo was 'bought' by the Albanian mafia in order to support independence for Kosovo." is false claim because Finnish News Agency ONLY published accusations of serbian newspaper "Fokus" nothing else ...

jFk said...

But OK lets assume all this accusations are true and mr. Ahtisaari did receive bribe... what does it change?

Kosovo will still gain independence no matter what, process won't stop just because someone did receive bribe no matter who he is. For Serbia-Croatia-Bosnia it is better to think about future not to live in past, and future is European Union.

By capturing war crime suspects, cleaning countries from corruption and make proper democracy Kosovo, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia and many other countries will be in same country and that is European Union.

Anonymous said...

"Again I repeat ,why there is no other accusations, investigations and similar actions other than Serbian press?"

Greg Copley is an American, and "Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis" is the journal published by his organization in the United States. They're pursuing this story and they aren't the Serbian press.

"Valentine Spyroglou, GIS Station Chief, South-East Europe doesn't exist in GIS, it only exist in Serbian reports nowhere else."

I don't know what Pamela von Gruber told you, but the byline on the Defense and Foreign Affairs article says Valentine Spyroglou GIS station chief. That name originates in the American publication "Defense & Foreign Affairs Special Analysis", it wasn't made-up by Julia Gorin or the Serbian press.

Perhaps you should have asked Ms. von Gruber why Valentine Spyroglou's name appears in the byline of a GIS publication if he dosen't work for them.

"But OK lets assume all this accusations are true and mr. Ahtisaari did receive bribe... what does it change?"

It means that the entire Kosovo status process that Mr. Ahtisaari oversaw last year was a scam. It means that the negotiations he conducted between Pristina and Belgrade were a rigged process with a predetermined outcome. It means that the Albanian side didn't negotiate in good faith because they bribed the mediator to ensure the outcome they wanted. It means that Kosovo is in the mafia's back pocket and that giving Kosovo independence would be tantamount to giving the power of a state to the mafia.

You're blind if you can't see the significance of that.

jFk said...

Again we are talking about report which nobody didn't publish, anyone accusing Ahtisaari said "we did see report" but nobody did show it so we must believe that fiction....

Even Julia Gorin published today short Press Briefing by U.S. State Department in which she quote:

MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, I think that the reports you’re referring to probably fall into the category of spurious.

Exactly mine point ...

MR. CASEY: Mr. Lambros, you’re free to go ask the UN what investigations it has or hasn’t started. […] If you’d like to pursue shadows, feel free to talk to the UN about it.

And so far this German report is nothing but shadow (on the paper)

After that so called "confirmation" Julia repeat Vecernje Novosti article as reliable source (again Serbian only newspaper).

As for Valentine Spyroglou's name appears in the byline of a GIS publications ... funny it appears only on Slobodan Milosevic website and other Serbian sites/blogs not on regular GIS reports...

When I said "Ok lets assume ..." I mean no matter who was UN Special Envoy for Kosovo we should except this kind of fabrications.

I can understand Serbia don't want let Kosovo, but with clear minds they should think about future and that is in EU where they will be again together.....