On what side was serbian chetniks in WW2?

This is a question for Julia since she claims serbian chetniks are only freedom fighters , and even today Serbia is only country in world who equal rights for Anti-Fachist fighters and chetniks from second World War. Julia Gorin is constantly trying to prove that Croatians are followers of ustasha movement from 1941 and they exist in current Croatia, which is false accusation because Croatia is democratic state and forbid all hate and anti-semit usage of any symbol. But as in USA or any other country there is always bad seeds who pull bad light to whole nation. But does it apply to Serbia ? Obviously not since chetnik party is well established party in today Serbia. But since Julia is always try to remind her readers some lies about Croatia here is also reminder where was serb chetniks in WW2 and to answer me this question : Who collaborate with Nazi's in Serbia?



ibidem,p.517; BA/MA, RH 19 XI/18 Gruppe Ic/AO, Aktennotiz zur Beschprechung am 29.9.1944 (30.8.1944)

“As the Germans tired to have three of their V-maenner three out of 70 chetniks the NDH powers had arrested after the Otok massacre"

“We cannot abandon the only allies (chetniks) we have in this cursed country >Sauland< (Croatia).”

ibidem,p.373; PA/AA. Inland IIg 401, 2824 Kasche an Auswaertiges Amt (16.4.1944)

“Chetniks are the only useful fellow combatants”

ibidem,p.378; BA/MA, RH 19 XI/15 Erfahrungsbericht ueber Dienstreise Serbien-Kroatien in der Zeit vom 20.6-4.7.1944 (5.7.1944)

“Chetniks (…) our natural allies. Only they are fighting! “Kroatische Kampfgemeinschaft” exists only on paper.”

ibidem,p.378; BA/MA, RH 19 XI/29 OKW/WfSt, Gruppe Ic/Ao Vortragsnotiz fuer Aussenchefbeschprechung am 25.7.1944 (23.7.1944)



Following lines were written by Edmund Glaise von Horstenau in his diary:

“The units that could really be used against the partisans were the Serbian and partly the Russian volunteers and-Draza Mihailovic’s people.My liason officer with them was a certain major,Ritterkreuztraeger.”

written on situation in Serbia during his visit to Belgrade in June 1944.

ibidem,p.187; BA/MA, RH 26-118/32 Befehl and die Cetnikfuehrer Cvijetin Todic,Golub Mitrovic,Savo Derikonja,Radivoj Kosoric,Bozo Plemic und Dusan Kovacevic (12.1.43).

“Partly,the Serbs have futhermore showed themselves as the most reliable allies in fighting against the red bands,that is against communism.They are always ready to fight against the bandits with the German Wehrmacht and even to place themselves under it’s command”

ibidem,p.307;BA/MA, RH 24-15/10 SS-Freiw.-Div. “Prinz Eugen” an Gen.Kdo. XV.Geb.AK. (5.9.1943).

ibidem,p.232,footnote 179; BA/MA, RH 24-15/2 Bfh. d. dt. Tr. i. Kroat.,Ia-Lagebeurteilung fuer die Zeit vom 1.3.-15.3.43 (16.3.43.)

“In the future,ammunition will be handed out only to those Chetnik units who under German command fight the Partisans.”

And after all this ...

Modern groups claiming to be Chetniks fought as paramilitary units in the Yugoslav wars with the stated goal of amputating territory from Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina.^{[citation needed]} They invoked the Greater Serbia ideology.

Vojislav Šešelj, a leader of the Serbian Radical Party, held a rank of voivoda of the Chetniks, given to him in 1989 by Momčilo Đujić, a surviving leader of the WWII Chetniks who fled to the United States.

Šešelj organized the modern Chetnik movement into several paramilitary units, including the "White Eagles" and "Srpski Četnički Pokret" who fought in the Yugoslav Wars which had been linked to several attrocities including Voćin and Vukovar massacres.

Serbian parliament has passed a law granting pensions to members of the Serbian Chetnik movement, the followers of the Serbian king who fled to London just before World War II. Bosnian born Chetnik commander Draza Mihailovich revived the paramilitary units and their trademark long beards to fight the Nazis in World War II, but later changed sides to back the brutal Nazi occupation. So Julia please do answer who have Nazi followers state Croatia or Serbia?

Only in Serbia Julia, Only in Serbia

Poor Julia is trying so hard to convince world and United States how Croatia is Nazi state and Serbs are good guys in whole Balkan area. Also Julia Gorin love to translate Croatian songs and have such a nice collection of it, so I dare Julia to translate this song recorded in Serbia and publish it on her blog:



Here is little help to get her started:

New York 5 years later ...
America you got what you deserved (for my Kosovo and Krajina)
11.09.2001=24,03.1999 (Nato bomb's) revenge for you
America it will get even worse, burning New York, Pentagon is falling...

Still not convinced what is going on in Kosovo? Well that is great thing about Internet you can get informations for any subject here is something made by serbs regarding Kosovo care to explain similarity of fonts used by chetnik website with German fonts in WW2, or did you ever asked your serbian friends why chetniks alwasy have skulls and bones on their flags and logos or why they have weapons all the time:



Nazi's in Serbia do they exist? Yes Julia, yes they do





Nacionalni stroj (National Alignment) is the name of an obscure neo-nazi organisation that was formed in Serbia and that that caught a lot of attention by orchestrating several incidents in 2005. Eighteen of its leading members were arrested and face lengthy prison terms. Its members are mostly teenagers.



During the night of March 21-22, 2005, anti-Semitic graffiti appeared, targeting the Jewish cemetery in Belgrade, buildings owned and used by Western-leaning TV/Radio B92, and two human rights NGOs. In addition, anti-Semitic posters targeting B92 appeared in several highly visible downtown areas. The posters were signed Nacionalni Stroj (National Formation). The Government quickly painted over the graffiti at the cemetery and arrested three people caught putting up the posters. There was widespread condemnation of the incidents by government and democratic political parties. On March 31, 2005, police arrested another person caught writing graffiti on the wall of the Jewish cemetery in Belgrade.



On the tenth anniversary of the Srebrenica massacre, a group claiming to belong to National Formation stuck posters in Negotin and Sremska Mitrovica with the following slogans: "Nož, žica, Srebrenica" (eng. "Knife, tie wire, Srebrenica") and "Mladiću, hvala ti za srpsku Srebrenicu" (eng. "Mladic, thank you for Serbian Srebrenica"). National Formation was made the media and was mentioned by BBC in 2005, about the disruption of round table at a faculty in Novi Sad organized by Anti-Fascist Action Novi Sad . The group was also accused of attacking Albanians, Roma people, as well as spreading anti-semitic propaganda and preaching hate.



Look Julia here something also what you need to write about



Neo-Nazis in Greece have been tied to hate-driven attacks on immigrants, homosexuals and leftists. One of the most deadly attacks was the murder of three immigrants in central Athens by Pandelis Kazakos. Twelve Greek neo-Nazis participated as volunteers in the Yugoslav wars in Bosnia, can you gues to which side Julia ? Aiding the Serbian Army in capturing the town of Srebrenica, so much about nazi Croatians.

Only in USA, Kids. Only in USA.

Since Julia is "on fire" writing about Croatia and try to explain to her readers that all Croatians are fachists and they all generally love idea of WW2 of so called "ustashe" I decided to write small contribution to that idea.

First of all Julia is one sad individual who never have visited Croatia but she reserve right to write about it. So as start lets see about latest of her writing's the famouse "ustasha" concert of Marko Perkovic Thompson. On her blog she claims there was 60,000 persons full of people Sieg Heil’ing which isn't true at all. It was 50,000 people and maybe 20-30 people with ustasha symbols and they are condemn by majority of Croatian people. Every single blog, forum, website talked about that subject and all agreed it is wrong thing. It is wrong to accuse whole nation for things what some individuals did, hell I can even go step ahead over Julia and accuse USA they are nazi government simply by looking at this video of NSM party rally.



It is clear what this people are saying in USA so I dare Julia to translate all Marko Perkovic Thompson songs which have been singed on mentioned concert and find any mention of WW2 , Nazi or ustasha. She can't because there wasn't any. That is truth not Julia's fabrications.

Yes there was some individuals in ustasha symbols but that concert wasn't nazi rock concert as she claim. Only thing what have to be done is to start obeying the law which forbid wearing any hate or nazi symbols in Croatia (but that fact Julia also forget to say), but in mass of 50,000 people it is easy that 10-20 persons hide what ever they want. But looks in USA they don't need to hide ... and it is fine for Julia

So I asked myself why then Julia is doing what she does?
Does she hate Croat's? Doubt it because she was never in Croatia and she didn't meet any croat's. Is she miss leaded ? Definitively, she gets information's only from one side and that is Serbian side. She live under impression Croat's pathologically hate Serb's and they do what ever they can to destroy them from face of the earth. Fact she forget to mention is that at 1990 when Serbian army attacked Croatia many Serbs from Croatia fight back on Croatia side. This picture about Serb's as victims made parallels and created some twisted Jewish-Serbian friendship so lets elaborate that friendship.

We were told that any unpleasant connotations of the word Chetnik was due to Croatian propaganda. Conventional Yugoslav history has it that it was the Partisans led by Tito and the Communist Party who fought the German, Italian, and other occupying armies and their local allies, such as Croat Ustashe and Serb Chetniks, and against overwhelming odds achieved what no one else in Europe could: the liberation of their country by themselves, rather than by the Allied forces. Now we learn that it was Chetniks, not the "Partisans" (the quotation marks are the writer's), who were true freedom fighters.

The Chetniks of today are freedom Fighters too, defending the right of the Serbs "to stay what they are, keeping their heritage... unmolested and together," rather than being a minority in any place. "Surely" we [the Jews] of all people should feel sympathetic to this sentiment," the writer says in conclusion.

This call tor Jewish sympathy and support for the Chetniks was published at the time world media were reporting in some detail how Chetniks were rounding up Muslim civilians in the towns and villages of eastern Bosnia, from Foca in the south all the way to Zvornik and further north, massacring them (mostly by cutting their throats with knives), and throwing the bodies into the Drina, thus repeating the same things World War II Chetniks had done throughout the region.

It is easy to see in this couple videos who are the chetniks : Real trueth about chetniks, symbols and songs, and many other things.

At the end is suggest Julia to finally open her eyes and read something before she write stupid things on blog and at least try to confirm facts.